Question loin d'être idiote puisque je me la suis posée également et que chacun sait que lorsque je m'interroge ce n'est qu'intelligement !
Je ne sais pas, j'ai effectué une prise de contact, j'attends une réponse, j'en profiterai pour poser la question, mais selon moi il serait pertinent de cibler tous les lieux de l'UE (Bruxelles, Strasbourg, Luxembourg, La Haye) et à défaut les parlements des pays où l'on réside.
S.G. _________________ Stop Islam Now
L'islam est à la spiritualité ce que le fast food est à la gastronomie.
Les Liégeois ont été plus que tous les ans domptés néanmoins ils ont toujours relevé leurs crestes. 1558 - Michel de l'Hospital
Stop Islamification Of Europe (SIOE) is an alliance of people across Europe with the single aim of preventing Islam becoming a dominant political force in Europe.
It originated with the joining of Stop Islamseringen Af Danmark (SIAD) a political party dedicated to stopping the Islamification in Denmark with a loose association of people in England whose rallying cry “No Sharia Here” who want to maintain English law and stop the creeping growth of sharia law in England.
SIOE is growing in Europe with the amalgamation of similarly minded groups.
AIMS
SIOE exists to legally combat the overt and covert expansion of Islam in Europe.
SIOE condemns racism as the lowest form of human stupidity, but considers Islamophobia to be the height of common sense.
SIOE states that Islam and democracy are incompatible due to teachings within the Koran itself and some of the hadiths which comprise sharia law.
SIOE sees that such incompatibility is self-evident when those tenuous democracies in countries where Islam is the dominant religion are scrutinized.
Such “democracies” have only existed in the post European colonial period, since the end of World War Two.
It has always been the case, but also increasingly so, that in Islamic countries, whether “democratic” or not, non-Muslims are at best treated as second class citizens, or at worst oppressed.
SIOE believes this to be due to the teachings of Islam, which encourages Muslims to feel superior to non-Muslims, and that Islam must prevail over any other religion and political system, by any means.
SIOE finds the concept of “moderate” Muslims difficult because of the Islamic practises of Taqiyya and Kitman which are designed to deceive and mislead non-Muslims in order to promote the ascendance of Islam over any other religion and political system.
Therefore, if a political party’s leaders and members may be accused of lying and their policies challenged, then so should a religion’s, especially Islam, which considers lying to be not only acceptable, but obligatory in the furtherance of its doctrine.
Furthermore, SIOE wants all religions to be treated in law the same way as political parties with no special legal protection. This should apply especially to Islam because it is a combined political, legal and judicial system administered and overseen by un-elected theologians, completely contrary to Western concepts of democracy.
This is why democracy is failing in Islamic countries and giving way to Islamic theocracy.
SIOE considers that those Western politicians, journalists, academics and social groups, who support Islam, are deliberately misleading Europeans as to the nature of Islam. This is particularly evident in the non-reporting of Islamist atrocities around the world, but also in the re-writing of history to portray Islam in a favourable light as a non-aggressive religion.
SIOE reflects the attitude of most people in Europe that Islam is being favoured above indigenous European cultures and that Muslims are being selectively protected by politicians and lawyers at the expense of non-Muslims who often find themselves unprotected.
SIOE challenges the funding by Saudi Arabia for the building of mosques and other Islamic institutions in Europe and elsewhere around the world, when that country outlaws religions other than Islam, politics other than Islam and legislature other than Islam. Such asymmetric funding must be stopped.
No more mosques until we see churches in Mecca.
REASONS
TO MAINTAIN OUR HARDFOUGHT DEMOCRACY
“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!” is the rallying cry of all liberty-loving Europeans who are tired of seeing their values and ways of life eroded.
Arguably, more than any other continent, Europe has suffered most to achieve its present happy condition of liberal democracy.
Centuries of international conflicts and civil wars, most notably of course the two world wars of the 20th century, were endured by the ordinary folk of Europe.
However, conflict, strife and warfare are not the preserve of Europe. The USA suffered its own civil war; China and Russia are still staggering out of the rubble of revolution down the rocky road to democracy.
Out of the centuries of Europe’s internal strife blossomed the Renaissance and Enlightenment, which in turn bore the fruits of democracy.
Freethinking men and women fashioned this fragile, imperfect political system, with its many nuances, which nevertheless survives and grows because of its intrinsic fairness and popularity.
Democracy in turn released those lucky people enjoying its benefits, to form the most medically, scientifically and artistically productive part of the world we call “The West”.
Many of the West’s achievements have come in the period since the Second World War, and its people determinedly defended their hard earned principles of democracy and freedom against the totalitarian doctrine of Communism.
In winning both World War Two and the Cold War, the West defeated two of its greatest enemies, one the European cancer of Nazism, the second the contagion of Communism.
Unfortunately, the existence of both has led to the adoption in modern political parlance of the fatuous terms “left” and “right.”
Even more unfortunately, in Europe at least, “left” has misleadingly come to mean “good” and “right” to mean “bad”.
The table of political oppression is a round one, at which the power-ravenous “right” and “left” sit shoulder-to-shoulder, gnawing the bones of freedom’s cadaver.
Rational people know these truths.
Totalitarianism is the antithesis of liberty.
Theocracy is the antipathy of democracy.
OUR OWN POLITICIANS, POLICE AND JUDGES ARE THE DANGER
So why have rational people allowed irrationality to rule?
It is because the main danger to liberal democracy is its inherent liberalism, which opens itself to being hijacked by self-styled liberals.
A Nazi will punch you for the good of the state. A Communist will kick you for the good of the state. A liberal will do both while shaking your hand and telling you it’s for your own good.
Rational people recognise that the only liberality self-styled “liberals” indulge in, is liberally banning everything they disagree with.
Lamentably, top of the banning agenda is free speech.
Understandably, because of the events of World War Two and also our colonial past, Europeans have become wary of persecuting minority groups.
This has led to Europeans encouraging people from around the world to settle in Europe and to share the benefits of Western ideals.
However, this laudable intention has been usurped, not only by some of the groups of people coming to Europe, but worse still by self-loathing, guilt-laden politicians not only of the “liberal” persuasion, but also capitalist free-marketeers.
Such people have inculcated themselves into positions of power.
Together, they undermine our ways of life, stifle dissent from their diktats and spread feelings of political remoteness and hopelessness among the majority of European people.
This is exactly the kind of totalitarianism we fought against in World War Two and the Cold War.
SO WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?
So what is different about the present battle (some describe it as a war)?
This time around the struggle is against a theocratic totalitarianism called Islam.
The very fact that it is a theocracy, in other words a religion, protects Islam from being challenged.
Political constitutions (written or otherwise) across the West enshrine the principle of freedom to religious practise.
Therefore, religions may not be attacked in the same way as political parties.
In the West, politicians and their parties come under continuous verbal and written onslaughts in the media regarding their policies, performance and personnel.
Religious practise, however, is protected.
Despite this, Christianity, Europe’s main religion, has constantly been ridiculed, criticised and condemned, more often than not with impunity.
This is because Christianity is an easy target, mainly due to the fact that calling for Christian heretics to be killed is deemed more than unacceptable by Christian clergy, and actually killing heretics contravenes laws drawn up by democratically elected legislators.
Certainly leaving Christianity, or any other religion besides Islam, does not merit any punishment, in this world at least.
As we all know, this is not the case with Islam’s sharia law, which stipulates a death sentence for apostates leaving Islam for any reason.
Until recently, religion has been put in its place in Western society. It has become a matter of one’s own personal belief and private conscience.
For generations, offending a religious person has not been regarded as being more than bad manners. One of the fundamental benefits in the West is the right to offend and be offended.
Religion has not been a threat to society and the clergy has not formulated legislation in the West, although it has been allowed to lobby the various elected governments.
All this is changing due to the imposition of Islam.
No other religion demands more from those who do not adhere to its doctrine.
This would not be a problem in the West, if our leaders actually stood up for Western values and insisted that Muslims live within our laws and accepted our cultures and social systems.
Instead, it is we who are told we must abandon our values, cultures and societies in order not to offend Muslims. It is Islam that is being rammed down our throats and the throats of our children.
It is not only in the West that Islam is causing misery and mayhem. All around the world Islam is battling the “infidels”.
In response all our politicians, journalists, social commentators and religious leaders do is avoid mentioning the murderous activities in places like Indonesia, Thailand and sub-Saharan Africa. However, if an Israeli soldiers so much as farts within earshot of a Palestinian mosque the whole world knows about it within minutes and politicians resoundingly condemn Israel.
Such sanctimonious, selective conscience is contemptible and Europeans are fed up with being oppressed for the sake of what most believe to be the most corrosive and intolerant political system ever devised.
The understandable enthusiasm for the SIOE Demo has encouraged people to make many suggestions.
The Demo has these main aims
1. To show the world that Europeans and others have had enough of Sharia by stealth and creeping Islamism.
2. To be the first in a long line of similar events. We are in this for the long haul and continual opposition to Sharia and Islamism will bring us success.
3. To build up a network of millions of people, both as individuals and as members of likeminded organisations, determined to reverse Islamism and restore freedom.
This network will then provide the necessary mutual support for further events.
Therefore, the SIOE Brussels 9/11 Demo requires
RULES FOR THE DEMO TO ENSURE ITS SUCCESS
1. Only national flags and SIOE banners are allowed
Reasons
a) There will be many organisations and people who may differ on certain other matters, but are united in anti-Islamism.
We want everybody to feel comfortable marching together so displaying distinctive banners might provoke unnecessary ill feeling between marchers.
b) We must project a unified front to the world, in other words, impenetrable armour. Different banners etc will present a mixed and confusing message and enable the media to stick knives in the gaps of our armour, to discredit our achievements.
c) Showing banners of organisations that, for example, support oppressed people in Islamic states, will endanger those same people. Banners supporting oppressed people will similarly endanger those oppressed people and will therefore, be counterproductive.
NATIONAL FLAGS
National flags are desired to present an international unity of purpose.
SIOE understands that grievances exist between different nationalities, particularly with recent realignments of international borders.
However, the greatest threat to world peace is Islamism.
We therefore, wish people to shake hands (either in reality or metaphorically) for this one day and unite in challenging our common ideological opponent.
Flags will help people to order themselves in the demo where they feel most comfortable.
POLICING AND SAFETY
These rules have been agreed with the Brussels police.
Safety of protestors is our paramount concern. Safety of people across the world is just as important. _________________ Imi Sde-Or : "Quelquefois, un homme tourne la tête pour regarder une femme et cela va complètement changer sa vie, et parfois il ne tourne pas la tête et cela, aussi, va complètement changer sa vie.
Posté le: Mar 10 Juil 2007 21:05 Sujet du message:
Citation:
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SWISS, FRENCH, GERMANS AND BELGIANS WILL JOIN THE BRUSSELS DEMONSTRATION
BY MARCHING FROM SWITZERLAND TO BRUSSELS!
En marchant depuis la Suisse vers Bruxelles
Deux questions:
1/Ou est le point de ralliement alors ? je croyais que c'etait devant le parlement europeen mais si la marche part de suisse , faudrait donner l'adresse.
2/Qui ici pense pouvoir se rendre a cette manifestion ? _________________ Please connect the dots.
Posté le: Mar 10 Juil 2007 21:18 Sujet du message:
J'attends de plus ample réponse de leur part.
Pour ma part, je n'exclus pas de participer à cette action. _________________ Imi Sde-Or : "Quelquefois, un homme tourne la tête pour regarder une femme et cela va complètement changer sa vie, et parfois il ne tourne pas la tête et cela, aussi, va complètement changer sa vie.
Posté le: Mar 10 Juil 2007 21:36 Sujet du message:
En attente d'infos complémentaires, pour le moment ceci (à relayer) :
http://icevikings.blogspot.com/ _________________ Imi Sde-Or : "Quelquefois, un homme tourne la tête pour regarder une femme et cela va complètement changer sa vie, et parfois il ne tourne pas la tête et cela, aussi, va complètement changer sa vie.
Posté le: Sam 14 Juil 2007 19:24 Sujet du message:
[quote="Melba"]
Citation:
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1/Ou est le point de ralliement alors ? je croyais que c'etait devant le parlement europeen mais si la marche part de suisse , faudrait donner l'adresse.
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Hello Johnny,
It's only the Swiss delegation that will march from Switzerland to Brussels. But everybody is of course aloud to join their march to Brussels, but the real SIOE march/demonstration starts in Brussels app. 1300 hours on sep. the 11.th.
Bets regards
Anders Gravers, SIOE Denmark _________________ Imi Sde-Or : "Quelquefois, un homme tourne la tête pour regarder une femme et cela va complètement changer sa vie, et parfois il ne tourne pas la tête et cela, aussi, va complètement changer sa vie.
Posté le: Lun 16 Juil 2007 02:04 Sujet du message:
La marche venant de Suisse est plutôt une proposition - je ne pense pas pour ma part que ce soit une très très bonne idée parce que ce n'est pas une petite trotte tout ça.
Voici ma traduction du texte répertoriant les consignes et les objectifs :
OBJECTIFS DE LA MANIFESTATION DU 11 septembre.
L'enthousiasme compréhensible pour l'initiative de la SIOE a encouragé de nombreuses personnes à faire des suggestions.
Voici les objectifs principaux de la manifestation :
1. Montrer au monde que les Européens en ont assez de la charia s'installant furtivement et de l'islamisme rampant.
2. Etre le premier fait marquant d'autres événements comparables. Nous sommes engagés dans une course de longue haleine et dans une continuelle opposition à la charia et à l'islamisme, cela nous mènera au succès.
3. Construire un réseau de millions de personnes, engagées à titre individuel, ou en tant que membres d'organisations ayant les mêmes dispositions, déterminées à renverser l'islamisme et à restaurer la liberté.
Ce réseau fournira alors le soutien nécessaire pour supporter d'autres événements à venir.
En conséquence, voici les CONSIGNES pour la manifestation de Bruxelles de 11 septembre
REGLES PERMETTANT D'ASSURER LE SUCCES A LA MANIFESTATION
Seuls les drapeaux nationaux et ceux de la SIOE sont autorisés.
Raisons :
a) Il y aura beaucoup d'organisations et de gens qui peuvent différer sur d'autres sujets, mais qui seront unis dans l'anti-islamisme.
Nous voulons que tous se sentent bien en marchant ensemble tandis que des bannières distinctives peuvent provoquer un sentiment de malaise inutile entre les manifestants.
b) Nous devons montrer un front uni au monde, en d'autres mots, une armure impénétrable. Différentes bannières présenteront un mélange de messages qui engendreraient de la confusion, ce qui serait l'occasion pour les médias de planter leurs griffes dans les échancrures de notre armure, afin de discréditer nos réussites.
c) Montrer des bannières d'organisation qui, par exemple, supportent les peuples opprimés dans les Etats islamiques mettraient en danger ces mêmes personnes, ce qui serait contre-productif.
DRAPEAUX NATIONAUX
Les drapeaux nationaux sont souhaités pour montrer une unité internationale quant aux objectifs que nous nous fixons.
La SIOE comprend qu'il peut exister des rancunes entre différentes nationalités, en particulier du fait de récents aménagements de frontières internationales, néanmoins, la plus grande menace à la paix dans la monde est l'islamisme.
Mais nous souhaitons que les différents peuples se serrent la main (au sens propre comme au sens figuré) pour ce premier jour et s'unissent face au défi que représente un adversaire idéologique commun.
Les drapeaux aideront les gens à se placer d'eux-mêmes dans la manifestation là où ils se sentent le plus à l'aise.
POLICE ET SECURITE
Ces règles ont reçu l'assentiment de la police de Bruxelles.
La sécurité des manifestants est un grand souci pour nous. La sécurité des gens à travers le monde est tout aussi importante.
Posté le: Ven 03 Aoû 2007 09:25 Sujet du message: Lutte anti-islam : GRAND RASSEMBLEMENT A BRUXELLES
Lutte anti-islam : ENFIN CA BOUGE EN EUROPE!
SOYEZ TOUS PRESENTS AU GRAND RASSEMBLEMENT ANTI-ISLAM A BRUXELLES DU 11 SEPTEMBRE A 13 HEURES DEVANT LE PARLEMENT EUROPEEN
Comme toute grosse machine l'Europe des peuples se met en marche avec beaucoup d'inertie et donc de retard contre l'envahissement et contre la transfusion civilisationnelle que veulent nous imposer nos élites européistes à la botte de la gouvernance mondiale. Transfusion clairement incompatible avec les Droits de l'Homme donc mortelle pour notre civilisation celtico-greco-latino-judéo-chrétienne.
Ne comptons pas sur les partis politiques pour aider à diffuser l'information ou à participer au rassemblement. Du côté du FN , du MPF ou du MNR, jusqu'ici c'est le silence radio alors il nous faut compter que sur nous-mêmes et sur des initiatives personnelles.
Sur le site suivant :
http://stopislamisationdesesprits.blogspot.com/ qui est la version française de l'appel du SIAD.DK (site en langue danoise; SIAD=Stop Islamiseringen Af Danmark ) à une manifestation européenne le 11 septembre 2007 contre l'" islamisation", dans le sens de l'imposition rampante de fait de la charia en Europe, vous pourrez lire :
ORIGINES :
SIOE (Stop to Islamisation Of Europe; http://sioe.wordpress.com/)est une alliance de peuples à travers l’Europe dont le seul but est de prévenir le fait que l’islam devienne une force politique dominante en Europe. Il a pour origine la jonction de Stop à l’islamisation du Danemark (SIAD; http://siad.wordpress.com/), un parti politique dédié à stopper l’islamisation du Danemark, avec une association anglaise qui se rallie au cri de ”Pas de charia ici”, qui veut maintenir la loi anglaise et stopper l’expansion de la loi de la charia en Angleterre.
SIOE grandit en Europe par l’association de groupes ayant le même état d’esprit.
BUTS :
SIOE existe pour combattre légalement l’expansion ouverte ou cachée de l’islam en Europe.
SIOE condamne le racisme comme la plus basse forme de stupidité, mais considere l’islamophobie comme une montée de bon sens.
SIOE estime que islam et démocratie sont incompatibles à cause des enseignements du coran lui même et de certains hadiths qui comprennent la loi de la charia...etc
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Alors commencez à organiser votre voyage à Bruxelles le 11 septembre 2007.
Réservez votre place de train, d’avion, de bus ou de ferry aujourd’hui ! Sans perdre un instant !
Le 11 septembre 2007 est un mardi
le 11 septembre 2001 était un mardi – comme les Américains s’en rappellent. Le 7 juillet 2005 était un jeudi – comme Londres s’en souvient. Les islamistes ne disent pas « Oh je ne peux pas le faire parce que c’est mardi ou jeudi ». Ils disent « Je peux tuer n’importe quel jour pour l’islam, le califat, et la soumission des kouffars (mécréants) »
Alors ceux qui sont déterminés à STOPPER L’ISLAMISATION DE L’EUROPE doivent dire par défi : « Je peux le faire n’importe quel jour pour conserver ma liberté et dire ASSEZ C’EST ASSEZ ! » Organisez vous avec vos amis et voyagez ensemble, et n’oubliez pas de prendre votre drapeau national !
SOYEZ LA ! RESTEZ LIBRES !
Visionner cette vidéo intitulée "Europe under the hammer", l'Europe sous le marteau
[Lien vidéo édité par Yann. Comment afficher une vidéo directement sur Bivouac ? Réponse ici] _________________ Seule la VERITE peut affronter l'injustice.
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Manifestation Européenne le 11 septembre 2007
